Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:34:39 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: Delivered-To: gopher@complete.org Received: from stockholm.ptloma.edu (stockholm.ptloma.edu [199.106.86.50]) by pi.glockenspiel.complete.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC6D3B912 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:34:36 -0600 (CST) Received: (from spectre@localhost) by stockholm.ptloma.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA09174 for gopher@complete.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:32:45 -0800 From: Cameron Kaiser Message-Id: <200101150532.VAA09174@stockholm.ptloma.edu> Subject: [gopher] Re: Gopher "robots.txt" In-Reply-To: <20010114211300.A885@success-info.com> from emanuel at heatdeath organisation at "Jan 14, 1 09:13:00 pm" To: gopher@complete.org Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:32:45 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 98 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: spectre@stockholm.ptloma.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org X-list: gopher > It wouldn't be that much of a performance hit. Rather than fetching the > directory with a normal gopher request, then fetching the attributes for > each entry of the directory, the robot could make a request something > like this: > > 1/directoryF$+VIEWS+ABSTRACT+ROBOTS > > which would fetch only the VIEWS, ABSTRACT, and ROBOTS attributes of > every item in the directory (in addition to the INFO attribute, which > contains the usual Gopher directory entry). A fully Gopher+ supporting > robot would need to get the VIEWS and ABSTRACT to build a complete index > anyway. This is a excellent idea, but I don't think we want to require all robots or robot-like things to be gopher+ compliant. It would be nice, but I don't think it should be mandatory. Also, this doesn't solve the problem adequately for those *servers* which are not gopher+ compliant, or certain subsets of indexed search servers that can't or don't make gopher+ compliant responses (I can think of several immediately). -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser@stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Adore, v.: To venerate expectantly. -- Ambrose Bierce ----------------------