Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list gopher); Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:56:48 -0500 (EST) Return-Path: Delivered-To: gopher@complete.org Received: from mirth.inuus.com (unknown [209.0.105.71]) by pi.glockenspiel.complete.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8273B864 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 11:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lindner@localhost) by mirth.inuus.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0HGprG01650 for gopher@complete.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:51:53 -0800 Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:51:53 -0800 From: Paul Lindner To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: Gopher thoughts Message-ID: <20020117085153.A2319@inuus.com> Mail-Followup-To: gopher@complete.org References: <3C4493E0.D60E4C67@sympatico.ca> <87sn96qpn9.fsf@complete.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <87sn96qpn9.fsf@complete.org>; from jgoerzen@complete.org on Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 10:30:50AM -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 358 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: lindner@inuus.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: Gopher List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: gopher On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 10:30:50AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > So, I think that the beauty of gopher is network-transparency. It's a > buzzword you hear a lot these days, referring to things like > databases, terminal servers, etc. But gopher really *DOES* network > transparency. If you use a browser like UMN gopher, which is probably > the closest we have to a real filesystem presentation, what you see is > essentially a large global filesystem. > > From this, you get other benefits. You get the straightforward uniform > presentation you like. You get another thing you don't get in the Web > -- not only do you not know when you leave a site, but you don't care. > > I've never actually used GopherVR or the "futuristic console" stuff, > so I'll skip commenting on those... Try using the GopherMoo then. Text-based multi-user gopher tech. I have not seen anything else quite like this. Another totally random thing, I think 3dwm (www.3dwm.org) combined with a gophervr application would be very interesting.. For example you could have fully rendered html displayed on the monuments, etc. Anyway, I hope to have more time to devote to this type of thing in the future. (I'm bareley keeping up with the mailing list :) Cheers -- Paul Lindner lindner@inuus.com ||||| | | | | | | | | | mod_perl Developer's Cookbook http://www.modperlcookbook.org Human Rights Declaration http://www.unhchr.ch/udhr/index.htm