Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list gopher); Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:25:58 -0500 (EST) Return-Path: Delivered-To: gopher@complete.org Received: from tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts16.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.4]) by pi.glockenspiel.complete.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C219E3B835 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:25:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.228.192.69]) by tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with ESMTP id <20020212012556.MTPX23163.tomts16-srv.bellnexxia.net@sympatico.ca> for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:25:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3C686EE9.95DED2BE@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:24:57 -0500 From: Ralph Furmaniak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: Gopher wishlist References: <61F7E6B1-1F51-11D6-976A-003065663F8C@golden.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 431 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: sugaku@sympatico.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: Gopher List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: gopher > It doesn't have to be xml - but I'm figuring that there are a lot of > opportunities here - we are going through times where much of the > infrastructure is still being built, so while gopher would be late to > the party, it doesn't mean it wouldn't be welcome... > > Perhaps those in the list have other possible targets to aim for... Exactly! Some people think that gopher is just for text files, but gopher is just a portable directory structure that can refer to any file. Gopher could also have its niche in providing navigation. Gopher supports mail files, but what if it could also serve up things like source code? I'll check out the xml ideas. I guess this is the time and place to speak our ideas. Gopher is a way to distribute information, so I was thinking about a way that it could all be organised, before it grows too much. How about if each directory (maybe files as well) has an attribute that tells the category of the information (like the categories on search engines). You can then have some bots going around and putting these sites into categories that can be accessed like this, or through a search. "unlabeled" gophers can then be inducted into a category if enough resources in that category reference it. Each resource can then be rated by how many other resources (overall or in that category) link to it. This would of course be too much for a single gopher to do, but thanks to the magic gopher, each category can be administered by a different server. A server could volunteer to host a specific category and then goes about looking through gophers. If it finds a resource that belongs in a different category, it can send it to the server hosting that category. Full-text searches could be implemented. Gopher has the capabilities of anonymous ftp (which it was a solution to), and can potentially do everything that napster does. Although, we should be careful in this respect, for if people make such a gopher file-sharing program, then people would go to it, gopher would be presented in the media as just this, mpaa looks to sue somebody, all respectable institutions forsake gopher. Actually this is quite unlikely to happen and I might just be thinking this because I've been trying to finish some strong danish blue cheese before it expires. Caveat emptor!