Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:57:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from a.mail.sonic.net ([64.142.16.245]) by glockenspiel.complete.org with esmtps (with TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (No TLS peer certificate) (Exim 4.50) id 1EPRB4-0003iw-NB for gopher@complete.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:56:58 -0500 Received: from papa (c-67-180-25-11.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.180.25.11]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with SMTP id j9BKuifB009027 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:56:44 -0700 From: "Tom Copley" To: Subject: [gopher] Re: basic newb info Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:04:18 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Status: No (score 0.0): none X-Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:56:58 -0500 X-archive-position: 1106 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: tcopley@sonic.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: Gopher X-List-ID: Gopher List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: gopher > Just following up on this -- has anyone out there set up a Gopher wiki, > or should I go ahead and do so? John, I want to contribute to a gopher wiki. In fact I was going to lay out around 100 Euros to a Dutch gentleman who agreed to host a mediawiki on his server for a year. For further info about mediawiki, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki There was some debate on this list about how best to implement a wiki. Some people thought it meant using a gopher-based wiki. This could turn out to be a serious programming task. I remember you suggested using TikiWiki. There were kind offers from one or two others who were willing to set up wiki programs. Of course someone, somehow needs to let the other shoe drop. I just want to dust off my old content from the 1994 Gopher-it Workshop and see if I can't bring some of it back to life. There are many people who still LOVE gopher and long for those good ol' text-ty pre-WWW-days. There may be excellent untapped value in gopher. For example, Rich Roberts points out the potentially superior accessibility of gopher. He sez "it all seems so much cleaner...screen readers love it,..text is easily magnified /contrasted etc." He posts "[Gopher is] an ordered, text based interface, so screen readers will find it easier to parse then a cluttered web page, even when viewed through Lynx. As to contrast, and magnification, a text only interface copes much more gracefully with this sort of shenanigans than a page full of flash" This is a great insight from Rich, and one I'd love to shout from the rooftops if anyone is listening. It doesn't matter to me how the job gets done. If you are willing to set up a TikiWiki, MediaWiki or GopherWiki, I'd be thrilled and will definitely become a contributor to it. Tom tcopley@sonic.net