Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:15:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sccrmhc14.comcast.net ([63.240.77.84]) by glockenspiel.complete.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1FrGyu-0003Hq-0t for gopher@complete.org; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:15:39 -0500 Received: from tower (c-24-19-62-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net[24.19.62.97]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <2006061616150101400atmqve>; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:15:01 +0000 From: "Andrew Mahan" To: Subject: [gopher] Re: RFC drafts Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:14:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 thread-index: AcaRL0cp7RigSyWOTEGug3OTjurkwgAMJwvQ In-Reply-To: <449284AB.5050700@route-add.net> X-Spam-Status: No (score 0.4): AWL=0.426 X-Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:15:39 -0500 X-archive-position: 1316 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: mahanam@comcast.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: Gopher X-List-ID: Gopher List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: gopher when running sftp usually the standard ssh port (22) is used from my understanding -----Original Message----- From: gopher-bounce@complete.org [mailto:gopher-bounce@complete.org] On Behalf Of Alessandro Selli Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:15 AM To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: RFC drafts Andrew Mahan wrote: > or SSH-2? Kinda like SFTP works My /etc/services file tells me sftp uses port 115 tcp/udp. > -----Original Message----- > From: gopher-bounce@complete.org [mailto:gopher-bounce@complete.org] On > Behalf Of Alessandro Selli > Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:09 AM > To: gopher@complete.org > Subject: [gopher] Re: RFC drafts > > Benn Newman wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 11:21:01AM -0400, Trevor wrote: >> >>> this intrigues me. >>> >>> (sorry i don't look familiar. been lurking the last couple of years.) >>> >>> one downfall, i feel, with gopher is it is clear text. has anyone thought > >>> about, besides me, an sGopher protocol? i think gopher would get more >>> mainstream use if it had security built into it. many companies refuse to > >>> use anything that sends clear text over a wire. just a thought. >>> >> Gopher over SSL/TLS (from my understanding) is easy and already possible. >> You can use something like stunnel (on the server) and socat (on the > client) >> > I agree. Only, you will have to use a non-standard port where the > SSL-gopher server > will listen to, since there is no IANA-assigned "gophers" port like > there is a "https" port > (443 tcp). > > -- Alessandro Selli Tel: 340.839.73.05 http://alessandro.route-add.net