Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:19:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hal3000.cx ([69.217.43.23] ident=root) by glockenspiel.complete.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) id 1IGJj0-0002PC-Ur for gopher@complete.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:19:17 -0500 Received: from work1.hal3000.cx (work1.hal3000.cx [10.0.0.2]) by hal3000.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA43979 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:18:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chris@hal3000.cx) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:19:09 -0500 From: Chris To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: Problem with SiMpLeMaChInEs Message-Id: <20070801141909.11861beb@work1.hal3000.cx> In-Reply-To: <46B0B5D5.9090409@w00f.eu> References: <618171.61504.qm@web35503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20070801152758.GA18712@pongonova.net> <46B0B5D5.9090409@w00f.eu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.10claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No (score 0.1): AWL=0.052 X-Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:19:17 -0500 X-archive-position: 1684 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: chris@hal3000.cx Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: Gopher X-List-ID: Gopher List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: gopher The original talk of port 70 actually goes back to mozilla and how when you search on jughead the browser shows for instance: gopher://hal3000.cx:3000/7 but the page displayed is: gopher://hal3000.cx or if i was going to: gopher://hal3000.cx:7080 it looked as if i was there but the page displayed was: gopher://hal3000.cx This led to discusion on mozillas board and here about port 70 and has been quite fully thrashed about by now. For some reason when moz decided to fix then unfix and reimplement gopher they chose to only allow port 70 and further made all gopher requests go to port 70 regardless of what port you typed in, this imo is worse than saying you can only use port 70. C On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:33:25 +0200 Mark wrote: > brian@pongonova.net wrote: > > Also, the word "should" doesn't mandate compliance. It's a > > recommendation. > > > I agree; that's why it's called an RFC and not something else. :) > > The port 70 discussion started because someone forwarded their port 70 > internet to a different port on LAN? My idea about this, is that it is > never a good idea to run a service on a different internal port than > it's external port. This because it's a definite way to show > difficulties like the one being discussed now. A rather pointless > discussion anyway, imho. :) > > --Mark > > > -- Join FSF as an Associate Member at: