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> However, I'd like to really stress making sure that old gopher client > requests are honoured under whatever strategem is devised. The vast majority > of gopher users are still using a web browser, not a dedicated client.

That almost goes without saying. I am, however, disappointed in what web browsers do, IE does not respect infos and does strange stuff, and netscape 6.2 uses the tree structure that automatically sorts everything. That is IMO why gopher servers should also be able to present the gopher through the http protocol (ie via hurg, or my additions to bucktooth). I have no faith in web browsers and would rather direct people to the http translation, at least until they can get some groovy gopher client.