Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:01:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from netblock-66-159-214-137.dslextreme.com ([66.159.214.137] helo=floodgap.com) by glockenspiel.complete.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CdY2c-0002x7-OZ for gopher@complete.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:01:56 -0600 Received: (from spectre@localhost) by floodgap.com (6.6.6.666/2004.05.05) id KAA25206 for gopher@complete.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:18:15 -0800 From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> Message-Id: <200412121818.KAA25206@floodgap.com> Subject: [gopher] Re: Feelings I got gophering around In-Reply-To: <41BC767A.9020105@route-add.net> from Alessandro Selli at "Dec 12, 4 05:48:58 pm" To: gopher@complete.org Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 10:18:15 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No (score 0.0) X-Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:01:56 -0600 X-archive-position: 975 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: spectre@floodgap.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: <mailto:ecartis@complete.org?Subject=help> List-unsubscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=unsubscribe> List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org> X-List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org> List-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe> List-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org> List-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org> List-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/> X-list: gopher

> On a second thought, I remember I mostly got the "Gopher > is dead" feeling browsing through the list of known "active" > servers around the world: the number of those servers that > did not respond or that were serving eight to ten years old > data was more than disappointing to me. So, I do think > now that having removed many of those forgotten servers > from the Internet is a good thing to Gopher itself: would > anyone take a look at what it's avaible from Gopher servers > now, he would find fewer servers, all right, but he would > find mostly servers that are beeing actively maintained and > that might be even inspiring things to browse through.

Myself, I'm just constantly trying to improve Veronica-2's relevance within the search set it has. This means dumping duff selectors, although I don't want to be too aggressive about this as it takes a while for the crawler to rediscover places that just have recurrent downtime and get winnowed inadvertently. However, these servers were habitually dead, so out they come. It took a little while to rip out the duffs and dupes, but I think the result is worth it. More nice data is chugging into Veronica-2 as we speak.

I have one more Gopher feature to release, hopefully by the end of this year. A couple enhancements I wrote into my local Bucktooth will also be released in a pr6 in a little bit, along with some updates to the documentation and support files (nothing critical, but nice).

> "Pauci sed boni!" (a few but good [men]!)

Exactly. :)

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