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On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 03:45:22AM -0500, Steven Morgan wrote: > Did anyone else cry when the port80 world began celebrating > <div style="text-align:center"></div> > over <center></center> ?

Yes, but not because I liked <center>. It sucks. So does <div>.

Honestly, I think XHTML fits in quite well with the Gopher/Unix philosophy of keeping things simple and having tools do a few jobs well, rather than having tools do a lot of jobs not so well. I would think the idea of seperating content from layout would be better accepted by Gopher types--it's exactly what Gopher does.