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On 16 Aug 2005, at 21:07, Tom Copley wrote:

>> a gopher server ( gopher.multijoy.com, not >> much content as yet, but at least it's there)) >> > > Rich, > > I took a quick look at your gopher tree and there is a lot of good > info > there that can become part of any wiki on gopher. I saw the U of Minn > mother gopher there too. It breaks my heart to see this link dead, > but, > ah, such is life, eh?

Heh, most of it's straight from the default gophermap, I still need to tidy it up!

> > >> It all seems so much cleaner, to my mind. Might be worth pushing the >> accessibility point? screen readers love it, >> text is easily magnified/contrasted etc. >> > > Can you elaborate on these points a little, please?

Well, it's an ordered, text based interface, so screen readers will find it easier to parse then a cluttered web page, even when viewed through lynx. As to contrast, and magnification, a text only interface copes much more gracefully with this sort of shennanigans than a page full of flash

Thinking about it, does anyone know if the University of Portsmouth maintained a gopher server back in the day? I work for them, so I may drop the informatics chaps a line and see if they've got backups, and try and resurrect it.

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