Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:18:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from nospam.wplus.net ([195.131.104.155] helo=emaile.wplus.net) by glockenspiel.complete.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Eazxb-0003lS-KB for gopher@complete.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:18:46 -0600 Received: by emaile.wplus.net with drweb-scanned (WebPlus antispam mailer ) id 1EazxS-000Gr1-00 for gopher@complete.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:18:34 +0300 Received: from [195.131.94.223] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by emaile.wplus.net with esmtp (WebPlus antispam mailer ) id 1EazxQ-000Gqm-00 for gopher@complete.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:18:33 +0300 Received: (from rp@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA02516 for gopher@complete.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:18:42 +0300 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:18:41 +0300 From: "R.A.Pavlov" <webmaster@ankylym.ru> To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: Gopher for dummies Message-ID: <20051112181841.GA2411@freeshell.org> Mail-Followup-To: gopher@complete.org References: <43761C9A.2000909@versateladsl.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43761C9A.2000909@versateladsl.be> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-IP: 195.131.94.223 X-From: webmaster@ankylym.ru X-Spam-Status: No (score 0.0): AWL=0.030 X-Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:18:46 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 1149 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: webmaster@ankylym.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: <mailto:ecartis@complete.org?Subject=help> List-unsubscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=unsubscribe> List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org> X-List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org> List-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe> List-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org> List-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org> List-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/> X-list: gopher

Hi, in the simplest case you just put files (with descriptive names:) in your gopher directory and they become available via gopher.

> But is not clear to how to make an menu page. Text and links to > documents, provide a discription to those directorys.

SDF runs Pygopherd now and that's very cool because this server supports both popular gopher link file formats - .links and .names files from original UMN gopherd and gophermap files from Bucktooth. To my mind, .links syntax is extremely cumbersome and irregular, it is described e.g. here

gopher://gopher.quux.org/0/devel/gopher/pygopherd/SVN/doc/pygopherd.txt

Gophermap file syntax is very simple and it's described here

gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/0/buck/dbrowse%3ffaquse%201

> How can you add an > search function (Veronica?)

That's a problem with script execution at SDF because gopher server runs in chrooted environment; atleast I haven't had much success with it. Also, non-trusted users can't run perl so you'll have to write a search system in sh %))) There's WAIS installed but it's hard to integrate it with gopher. Also, the original veronica script (atleast the one I was using on my former gopher server) runs on a special port from inetd so you have to set up your own gopher server to run it.

> Is there sofware special for making a gopher site? I use GNU/linux.

In fact, gopher is designed in a way so simple that you won't need any special development tools except for a text editor :)

> It seems there is also a hidden file ".links" that contains information. > > I am looking for an overview of the different instructions that exist > that you can use for a gopher site. Like there is for www by use of an > index of the html-makeup options and how to use it. >

The links above (especially pygopherd manual) should help you.

> Greetings, > Walter Vermeir > >

-- Yours, etc. Roman A. Pavlov

gopher://sdf.lonestar.org/1/users/rp