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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:30:23 -0600, Benn Newman <newmanbe@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 10:46:43AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 09:56:42AM -0600, Benn Newman wrote: >> Hmm, who are all these client people? ;-) > Jeff P., the developed for GopherJ. :)

>> [..] >> It's rather complex in some cases and there are a lot of >> special cases.

I think gopher+ stinks anyway. Instead of opening a new connection to fetch the new (mostly undefined) attributes it would have been easier to keep reserving extra tabspaces in the menus for simple things like mimetype and filesize. My reason for not adding gopher+ to GopherJ is that it doesn't compliment the original protocol. And as Mr. Goerzen said, it's not very gophery.

Why don't we write a new spec which would supercede gopher+?

-- Jeff