Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:59:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from ol.freeshell.org ([192.94.73.20] helo=sdf.lonestar.org) by glockenspiel.complete.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Eufwt-0001zb-BM for gopher@complete.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:59:24 -0600 Received: from sdf.lonestar.org (IDENT:newmanbe@sdf.lonestar.org [192.94.73.1]) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k060wuN8029296 for <gopher@complete.org>; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 00:58:57 GMT Received: (from newmanbe@localhost) by sdf.lonestar.org (8.13.1/8.12.8/Submit) id k060wutx021288 for gopher@complete.org; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 18:58:56 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 18:58:56 -0600 From: Benn Newman <newmanbe@sdf.lonestar.org> To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: Need for protocol changey Message-ID: <20060106005856.GA19216@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> References: <20060104230913.GA28833@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> <op.s2wpmtl8vbderv@wybotnnas01-pool0-a247.wybotn.tds.net> <20060105231955.GA27530@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> <op.s2xkx2auvbderv@wybotnnas01-pool0-a130.wybotn.tds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <op.s2xkx2auvbderv@wybotnnas01-pool0-a130.wybotn.tds.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Spam-Status: No (score 0.2): AWL=0.104, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 X-Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:59:24 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 1240 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: newmanbe@sdf.lonestar.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: <mailto:ecartis@complete.org?Subject=help> List-unsubscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=unsubscribe> List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org> X-List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org> List-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe> List-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org> List-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org> List-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/> X-list: gopher

On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 06:28:40PM -0600, Jeff wrote: > Without MIME, you're just downloading a 9/Binary file, which may or may > not have had a tgz 'extension' in the selector. As Mr. Goerzen wrote, "IE > sometimes looks at the extension of a file to determine what sort of file > it is, and this is generally considered a bug." Opera listens to the MIME type and ignores the item type. :) > There is no standard way to show filesize in gopher. I don't think > tacking some stuff in parenthesis to the end of the display string and > expecting a client to read it as file data is such a good idea. But why do we need it in the protocol? > The fact that the foremost gopher/gopher+ developers were interested in > changing the protocol isn't enough? Okay, you want change, but why? To me, it just seems like change for the sake of change. -- Benn Newman | newmanbe@sdf.lonestar.org | gopher://igneous-rock.homeunix.net Wisconsin Association of Gopher Operators Learn about the Gopher Project: http://gopher.quux.org/Software/Gopher -- Attached file included as plaintext by Ecartis --

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