Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:00:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nz-out-0102.google.com ([64.233.162.200]) by glockenspiel.complete.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GDlE5-0005dI-H9 for gopher@complete.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:00:19 -0500 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id f1so315371nzc for <gopher@complete.org>; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:00:03 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b3SRPKxLvf1aA4OYYms/0x6mcBYeULv1JTg2ljoRi1vhPDUdy/TeFjIbbn/pL++sqWSJ6ulBYu+1f3ccaOva7camfCxoVUObOO/Bl3uHA25ZYCoFOPlZslA2ItOz7jCuZO4pnXC8WdtJMARdBrPmkZMX7oG2CvvG7o0XiCEEgCw= Received: by 10.65.81.19 with SMTP id i19mr2442930qbl; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.204.3 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <f705f7020608171000m1789a3c1r4f2c74e98375eaf2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:00:02 +0200 From: Stegozor <stegozor@gmail.com> To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: Active ? In-Reply-To: <20060817163643.24100.qmail@web35501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060816012429.GA2441@comcast.net> <20060817163643.24100.qmail@web35501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Status: No (score 0.0): RCVD_BY_IP=0.024 X-Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:00:19 -0500 X-archive-position: 1347 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: stegozor@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: <mailto:ecartis@complete.org?Subject=help> List-unsubscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=unsubscribe> List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org> X-List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org> List-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe> List-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org> List-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org> List-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/> X-list: gopher

On 8/17/06, JumpJet Mailbox <jumpjetinfo@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Neither gopher://alessandro.route-add.net or gopher://gopher.rp.spb.su are accessable from Port 70. This is probably due to these Gopher servers being removed from Internet service. > > The error you are experiencing appears to NOT be a issue with your Gopher software, but an issue with your DNS server. As you state: > "When I go to a site I get mixed messages on unreachable links, one is pretty instantaneous telling me that the site is not available, the second hangs the gopher program for 2-3 minutes before telling me that it cannot connect to the host.". > > The "instantaneous" failure is because there is no longer a physical IP address associated with the server you are trying to reach, so the DNS server sends back a quick response. The failure that APPEARS to "hang" is because there is still an IP address associated with the unreachable servers (in the case of gopher://alessandro.route-add.net it is 192.182.210.150, and the case of gopher://gopher.rp.spb.su it is 81.3.164.16 ), and the DNS server spends a considerable amount of time trying to reach the associated pysical IP address.

Thanks for the explanation, but there's something I still don't understand and that seems to be a bug in Gopher client to me: when I press control-c during an attempt to contact these servers, I can't take back the control of the program, the beep (from the buzzer) becomes weird and repetitive and I have to close the terminal window. I tried the same links with SeaMonkey, simply pressing escape stops the transaction.