Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:48:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.225]) by glockenspiel.complete.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) id 1HdK4X-0001dt-SZ for gopher@complete.org; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:48:18 -0500 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s17so1551987wxc for <gopher@complete.org>; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:48:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XkmE5jnaJY7fhaHvym8UR+0Akuf0NpEcf6Sxx35iaA4HbvmFUDLXdVu7aobG9woD5JEY6tAFKc0YPxkmFJeg/axXJZXq+D9ctMqxBQdanKaYz4Yjc7j5KLpUd/zaTQXq3doa5TQnuG6W1g3EXkBHlZOzlypKvOOWSPkANQvoFIw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=B3WJBXQUlqqZJh8CJqdYyNtI8VeFq2Z/y8rqwJrRKzXt7gtOiv0JSeoaLMPcJgeaqL1B6Q9Q/hHopOnVce/zoexpXFxmFfzjxPPulYNZ6mCoQhksI3vb57wcdxuZMLprgLwpyxVii7g0A/cLIfo792T2ZhZ7V5h5ROHeG6eM2PA= Received: by 10.114.80.4 with SMTP id d4mr1765730wab.1176702494358; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.181.7 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <f705f7020704152248m43aaae50gd83f24ec330024fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:48:14 +0200 From: Stegozor <stegozor@gmail.com> To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: Mozilla bugs about Gopher, and a dangerous one In-Reply-To: <200704111249.l3BCnTEF014776@floodgap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <evijud$35h$1@sea.gmane.org> <200704111249.l3BCnTEF014776@floodgap.com> X-Spam-Status: No (score 0.0): none X-Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:48:18 -0500 X-archive-position: 1587 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: stegozor@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: <mailto:ecartis@complete.org?Subject=help> List-unsubscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=unsubscribe> List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org> X-List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org> List-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe> List-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org> List-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org> List-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/> X-list: gopher

On 4/11/07, Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> wrote: > > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351748 > > (Remove UI for Gopher proxy settings) > > Wow, this sucks. Everyone get on this and complain. It's the slippery > slope to removal. Thanks for pointing it out, and kudos to Aaron for > jumping on it also.

Well, I finally wrote a complaint. Hope this is going to calm down a little bit the will of the reporter to remove the UI for Gopher proxy settings.

> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158888 > > (implement better handling for gopher on non default ports) > > Voted. I'm not even sure why they did this that way.

I recently found this: gopher://sipb.mit.edu/1B:Internet%20whois%20servers The result with Mozilla derivatives is bad :(

> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=273459 > > (most gopher-*.gif images are unused) > > Voted. This looks like a good solution to implement.

I had a look to these gifs (C:\Program Files\mozilla.org\SeaMonkey\res\html under my Windows Millennium). They're pretty nice. It would be nice if they were used, indeed.

> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202196 > > (wrong protocol for host names containing "gopher") > > I think I agree with the naysayers on this one. Although it would be nice > to just type in gopher.floodgap.com and not get helsinki's *web* server, > I think this is a case where the solution will be worse than the problem for > many users.

Probably. I had hesitated a lot, but when I saw that Lynx was doing this guess quite efficiently, I voted: how many websites begin with http://gopher... ? But anyway, this probably is not so important and indeed some newbies could whine if the bug was corrected.

> > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326034 > > (Gopher module shouldn't try to interpret text into URLs) > > This is mine! Vote for it! Aaron's the only other communicator recently of > note.

Voted :)

> > Feel free to correct my English ;) > > I'm sure it's better than me speaking your native language

Bleh. I was expecting a comment like "oh, why do you say that? Your English is better than perfect ". :-p

> (what is it, anyway?).

Hmmm. Do you remember that you have a file in a foreign language you'll put on floodgap in one of your next lives? ;)

> Thanks very much for posting these. I've got the relevant ones on my > cc list now.

I think that given the opposition the bug will remain open for quite a while. Since the assignee is also the reporter, I don't think he will easily accept a wontfix, but anyway, now he's under surveillance :)