Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list gopher); Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:00:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.179]) by glockenspiel.complete.org with esmtp (Exim 4.63) id 1INfVl-0007xr-Rn for gopher@complete.org; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:00:00 -0500 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id l35so28741waf for <gopher@complete.org>; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:59:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Io/BQlcpxV6emG9UfFWZrTBGRZN4afoh4K/+IPEkz+Hbz0n/1G6pDHtpRO2VGzIchiCDJzpvXlF8Se6saxohPlhXYMGc3IjR7Wekh8eaUSClWBormRWo7purpUjXYJVXBxQkddIF9GI2IVoZY20LBiMo43REtg68WqjrJvhoKcg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=arDy/xJ7bpKpSRH+7/T79vzWEJ/cMx8MVZEmYGk2LHorYBRoBW+Ss5gm/5wE0LOz1Drx97h6ZIpXcKLuMBqCNyCZGXkH4mAkmaToQ49jiutNV5BUd8V5+Ys7K7xnWOlPZTUDwftLJ6vXI6CTAPxPfNOgGEF7kEg49B7PvwpPh9M= Received: by 10.114.89.1 with SMTP id m1mr118109wab.1187747995603; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.183.20 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <f705f7020708211859x2aff5b5bk4492b8388cc2772e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:59:55 +0200 From: Stegozor <stegozor@gmail.com> To: gopher@complete.org Subject: [gopher] Re: Firefox and Gopher, bad news... In-Reply-To: <2a1386f80708211801lba128b8l93d7f1b43ce3fa0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <f705f7020708211621m16937daar98b95f309e8a717c@mail.gmail.com> <46CB776B.7070908@w00f.eu> <2a1386f80708211801lba128b8l93d7f1b43ce3fa0@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Status: No (score 0.0): AWL=0.000 X-Virus-Scanned: by Exiscan on glockenspiel.complete.org at Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:00:00 -0500 X-archive-position: 1688 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: gopher-bounce@complete.org Errors-to: gopher-bounce@complete.org X-original-sender: stegozor@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: gopher@complete.org List-help: <mailto:ecartis@complete.org?Subject=help> List-unsubscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=unsubscribe> List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: Gopher <gopher.complete.org> X-List-ID: Gopher <gopher.complete.org> List-subscribe: <mailto:gopher-request@complete.org?Subject=subscribe> List-owner: <mailto:jgoerzen@complete.org> List-post: <mailto:gopher@complete.org> List-archive: <http://www.complete.org/mailinglists/archives/> X-list: gopher

On 8/22/07, Hugh Guiney <hugh.guiney@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't understand the incentive, here. Why are these people so concerned > with removing UI elements that aren't even in the way? If a prompt came up > every time you opened the browser asking for a Gopher proxy, it'd make > sense, but come on... Tools > Options > Advanced > Network > Settings? The > "majority" of people don't even use proxies to begin with. It's almost as if > these bug reports are made just so people can say they contributed to a > Firefox build. > I wonder if it's even worth fighting. I mean, it's 2007. If Mozilla felt the > need to discontinue Gopher support, they'd have done it a long time ago. > They could just end up ignoring these.

Wish you were right, but unfortunately, it seems that they're seriously thinking about completely removing the Gopher protocol support. Please see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388195 (not the bug about proxy UI settings but the protocol itself, as a whole). Moreover, the bug title has just been changed from "Consider removing gopher protocol support for Firefox" to "Remove gopher protocol support for Firefox". Several patches are already attached and the target is Gecko 1.9, which means Firefox 3.

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