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> Yeah, it does seem iffy. However, do I take this to read that there is a > gopher proxy option somewhere in the bowels of WinINet? >

No , but perhaps in the bowels of my HD or Jeff's, It is in mIRC script.

> Actually, my count is 153 (!). There is an impending purge but there are > only around five or six suspects marked for deletion. > > Do note some of those are CNAMEs, of course -- I go by name because the old > IP-address system the original Veronica used left a lot of indeterminate > orphans.

I get 107 seperate IP's total. Not every one (of the 115 found as initially good) was reachable over the two weeks of harvesting so I used what dwindled down to 107, also some cnames were included so mine and yours are probably quite close. I did some comparisons again on some stock searches (between V2, Veronica and the Multi Site Jugtail) and found the results interesting.

> In the short term, this is what *I*'m going to be doing: > > - Starting internal design on simultaneous FF plugin and a stand-alone > executable. I'll christen my work "Overbite" and "OverbiteFF". The > stand-alone is likely to surface first, and on purpose, so that people will > know that such a client is available. The OverbiteFF plugin will appear as > Mozilla 2.0 starts to gel. When I have something to play with, I will > notify. I would like to use AIR, but I might use RealBASIC for a prototype > instead since AIR is still beta, and migrate later. Whatever we do must be > cross-platform (Windows alone won't cut it and I think we should have Linux > support too -- and I'm a Mac bigot so a Mac OS X version is a given :).

Looking forward to it.

> > - It appears that wanted-1.9 is off the bug, so barring a sudden burst of > disingeniuity from the Moz devs, we can start publicizing to people that > Firefox 3 will be the final version to support gopher and directing people > to alternatives that exist now. JumpJet has their gopher client archive, I > have my Public Proxy, anyone else?

I've a few for the DOS users under /Software/Dos/Gopher_Web_clients I also considered running my squid for the public, the load shouldn't be too bad. I dont know what the interest would be.

> All of us running servers should let people > know of the impending change so that regular gopher users can be aware of it, > but I think we should wait to start going public on it until 388195 has > stabilized and the path is clear. That should be later this week.

Good idea.

Chris gopher://hal3000.cx