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A list of CSO (ph/qi) Servers, as well as information about CSO, can be found at: http://www.emailman.com/eudora/computers/ph.html

Cameron Kaiser <spectre@floodgap.com> wrote: It's finally here -- OverbiteFF is ready for beta testing! And some help is required.

First off, this initial version is ONLY FOR FIREFOX 3. There will be a version for FF2, but it will be mostly as a legacy install, and will not be supported other than security or critical fixes due to differences between Mozilla 1.8 and Mozilla 1.9.

Make sure you are running the most current beta (3.0b3) as b2 had a bug preventing OverbiteFF from doing socket access properly.

OverbiteFF is fully cross-platform and platform-agnostic, written in 100% XPConnect JavaScript. It should run anywhere Firefox does, including Mac OS X (built on it), Windows and Linux.

This extension adds:

- Full gopher support on multiple ports again, including whois, finger, etc. - CSO/ph/qi support! very basic, but it works! That's item type 2, btw. - "Skinability" -- create your own style sheets and icons for gopherspace - Additional item types p and d (PNG and PDF) - Native hURL support (handled by client, not server) with security for bummer schemes like javascript: and data: - Proper interpretation of itypes 8 and T - Localization/internationalization support (more on that in a second) - A cute mascot

Proxies are still supported. Search engines, duh, are still supported.

This extension changes the following:

- No more trying to interpret text/plain as HTML. This not only made a mess and was frequently wrong, but you couldn't save the file WITHOUT the HTML (do a view-source: and see for yourself) unless you grabbed it with itype 9 tricks. This simply spits the page out unmolested as text/plain.

- No more being lazy and relying on content-sniffing for item types like I. Give them an extension, please, so OverbiteFF has a prayer at figuring it out. There is kludgey guessing logic but don't rely on this always guessing the same in future versions.

- HTML documents previously were allowed to slide in a very non-standard manner and reference images in the same directory. This is completely bogus because there is no way that the itemtype can change like that in a relative URI sense. Thus, any HTML documents with hyperlinks or , , etc., MUST USE ABSOLUTE URLs, not relative ones. They should have never worked in the first place (and note that #anchors don't -- but this is a Mozilla bug which I will report).

I would be happy to credit everyone who sends me a bug report with you and your gopher server, BUT I MUST HAVE YOUR REAL NAME. I want this to look as pro as possible. You get the about page with gopher:// (no HOST) or about:gopher (or about:overbite).

Also, I need translators to help internationalize this in a big way. Native speakers preferred. I can do Spanish in a pinch, but I speak street Spanish and I'd rather a native who can speak erudite international es, for example. Again, I will credit you, but real names only please.

Please do not publicize this beta, as I do not want its presence to jeopardize Gopher support in 1.9 (as FF3 is not final). I know Brendan Eich said it would remain, but I don't trust them. Its presence in FF3 will ensure that there will be a migration period and we'll get the Firefox users onto this so that there will be little attrition by Moz2.

Download URL:

gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/9/overbiteff.xpi

The home page does not exist yet, and there are no automatic updates (but there will be).

There is hope!

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