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Aunc.3294 net.dcom,net.micro utzoo!decvax!duke!mcnc!unc!wm Sat Apr 17 20:19:12 1982 request for modem responses

The following is the digested version of the responses I received to my request for information about 1200 baud full duplex modems. Thanks to everyone who responded. In case you are wondering, I decided to wait until the under $500 modems come out and put up with vi at 300 baud. Grad students can't be choosers. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >From tucc!taylor Mon Apr 5 08:50:36 1982 I am currently putting together specs for a state contract for 1200 baud modems. From my current info, it looks like ~$650 to $700 is as good as I have found for quantity 1 purchase. If you're interested in leasing, David-Jamison-Carlyle in NJ will lease prentice (or GDC) for $21/mo., and nothing I heard from them indicated that they would not lease to individuals. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From tucc!taylor Mon Apr 5 15:20:27 1982 re: modem prices Since we are just putting together the contract, my prices are incomplete. However, so me of the numbers are:

Datec 212a $715.50 qty. 1-4 with 10% educational discount Contact - Tammy Patterson 929-2135

Prentice is about the same price, but offers a 20% educational discount. I don't have an exact price. contact Carol Alldis 408-734-9810

Ventel $718 std.; 846 with autodialer contact Teresa Bible 1-800-538-5121

Novation I have been quoted some prices that seem too good to be exactly right. Local dist. is Hamilton Avenet in Raleigh 829-8030.

I hope this is of some help. results as i get them will be posted to net.dcom. (Data Communications group). That might be a good place to place a further query. Steve ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From tucc!taylor Mon Apr 5 18:21:26 1982 re; novation BEWARE of 'half duplex' 1200 baud modems and avoid them like the plague. They are generally 202 compatible rather than 212 compatible, and you will find very few modems they will talk to, and that number is rapidly decreasing. Steve ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lauren at UCLA-Security (Lauren Weinstein) I doubt it. You know the real reason the prices are so high? Because the protocols (212 and Vadic) are proprietary, and are LICENSED to manufacturers under considerable restrictions.

1200 baud full-duplex modems are NOT simple and require alot of special equipment to align initially. --Lauren-- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From tucc!taylor Tue Apr 6 08:51:16 1982 The list price on a 3451 (triple modem w/ power supply) is $900 qty. 1, $850 qty. 25. The only question is whether you really need the vadic compatibility. (Personally, I would not pay anything extra for it.) Steve ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From duke!harpo!decvax!utzoo!laura Tue Apr 6 22:27:08 1982 I have been looking at 1200 baud modems to no avail here in Canada. There seems to be nothing which costs less than $1200 <CANADIAN> available. Of course, many American companies consider Canada the boondocks of the continent, so I suppose that is to be expected. I can get a Racel-Vadic triple modem with auto-dialer for 1.5K here, so if prices are that bad everywhere it would be the best deal, even though I dont really need an auto-dialer. If you can come up with anything cheaper I would be very interested in hearing about it. Thank you very much, Laura Creighton ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lauren at UCLA-Security (Lauren Weinstein) I expect a couple of under $500 212-only (not Vadic) modems in the near future. How MUCH under $500 is another matter. --Lauren-- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From duke!harpo!zeppo!wheps!ihnss!ihps3!stolaf!minn-ua!thomas Thu Apr 8 12:26:06 1982 You might check the UDS 212LP, it is about $475 in singles, and if you are a large organization you might get it down to 420. Its quite small and is line powered, but only does bell 212 not 103. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From JSHELTON@BBNA Fri Apr 9 12:44:46 1982 Sorry for lateness of reply. Try UDS, which has a line powered 1200 Bell 212 modem for $495 qty 1. It will talk to a vadic triple modem, so should work fine. =John= ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From duke!ucf-cs!karl Fri Apr 9 15:57:59 1982 Modems seem to be an outrageously priced item on the market. I have a Ventel 212 modem. It has switchable 1200/300 baud with full or half duplex. It has some real convenient features like it can store and dial numbers in various modes. I suggest that if you are going to 1200 baud don't forget 300, because there are too many places only having 300 baud dialups. This is the case here at UCF where we have several computing services each having either 1200 or 300 or both. Now the bad news, MONEY. You really can't find a modem at 1200 baud for under $500 unless it is only a 1200 baud. The Ventel goes for about $700, this was more then I wanted to pay really and has more features then I need but I could not find anything on the market that was switchable for under $1000 Hayes is supposed to be comming out with a cheaper moden . If you want any specs or tech info I will be glad to send it along to you. I heard of one other make that might do the job, but I am at work and all my info is at home. Karl Thiele 305-275-2341 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Charles Frankston <CBF MIT-MC AT> Universal Data Systems of Huntsville Alabama recently announced the 212LP which is Bell 212 compatible (both 1200 baud full duplex and 300 baud modes.) for $495. The modem sits in a small box under a telephone and steals its power from the phone line (no AC connection needed). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Doug.Jensen at CMU-10A (X400DJ40) You should feel real funny about "feel(ing) real funny paying as much for a modem as (you) do for a terminal." That is entirely irrational, and reflects a failure to adjust to changes in technological economics. Do you also feel real funny paying more for i/o chips than for processor chips these days? No offense intended, I just don't like to see people imagine that God intended some things to inherently cost more than others, just because they historically have. Cheers, Doug ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From chip Wed Apr 14 10:49:11 1982 Subject: New Vadic 3451 Did you know that Vadic has come out with a triple modem with auto-dialing. The wild thing about it is the price -- I got a quote of $775 (educational discount) last February. As far as I know, we'll be getting 2 in the near future

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